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      CommentAuthorDrew_1981
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2010
     
    Hey I gave my honest opinion on every episode in specifics lol

    Overall if you look at the season as a whole from seeing it all now, it was pretty good and made sense and was a needed transition for the ending to work.

    Subject to actor availability and funding etc.. they did pretty well
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      CommentAuthorKieranSM
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2010 edited
     
    Drew you're a class act, I'll go on record and say you're one of the very few people here I take seriously. But MackyBoy, I have to keep justifying myself because apparently some people don't understand what I'm saying, including you.

    I'm not taking issue with people's opinion on the season or the finale. Some will love it, some will hate it. Doesn't mean that those who love it have bad taste, they're simply easier to please. What I AM taking issue with is the way negative criticism is handled, especially by the mods. Go to the first page of this thread and see Tamar and Pookina's responses to the gal that started the thread, she was only stating her personal case.

    Same deal, how would it make YOU feel if you pointed out something you didn't like and you got brushed off like your opinion doesn't matter? THAT'S what I got a problem with. Nothing to do with my opinion of season 6, so the rest can save the whole "don't watch if you don't like". I've been watching since season 1, episode 1.
    • CommentAuthorlouise86
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2010
     
    Is there anyone here you take seriously Kieran? Only curious. But I do understand where you're coming from regarding negativity, but who cares anymore? Time to move on?
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      CommentAuthorDrew_1981
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2010
     
    I think they are just so over it, the show ended for them months ago and they have moved onto other stuff, so people's negative comments dont mean shit to them lol.

    And besides its not like they can fix them up in a new season or anything, the show is dead and whats the point of kicking it while its down?
    • CommentAuthorkakapo
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2010 edited
     
    What I AM taking issue with is the way negative criticism is handled, especially by the mods.
    I agree with you here Kieran. And while I understand that it must be/have been frustrating for them to read the negative comments, I feel that moderators should do what their name implies - moderate. Something that I think hasn't happened much since Series 6 started. 
    But I agree that it't time to move on, not because the show is dead or down but because I'd rather spend my energy on something more fruitful.
    • CommentAuthorMac
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2010
     
    The reason the moderators responded like that was because they've already said, some will hate it, some will love it. What can they do about it? more so, what do you expect them to do about it?

    They couldn't have Wolf come back. They couldn't have Cheryl in the final season.

    They did a fucking awesome job
    • CommentAuthorCornelius
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    Geez Gardenman, I ask if you are OZ and you gave that McMassive reply!
    Hahaha you stick around more man!
    • CommentAuthormacka3000
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    OK, I will admit... I don't think series 6 was as great as the last 5 but it was still carried out with excellent writing, acting and directing. The one thing that I'm disappointed in regards to Wolf, is that we don't know where he went. He said to Pascalle in S4 when he fucked off again, that if she wanted to talk, ask Loretta. Why did she know? And why did he tell her when she stuck him in jail?

    The last episode, I was rather disappointed whilst watching it but afterwards, when I'd thought abot it some more, I was quite content with where things were left.

    Loretta, Hayden & Jane make the cutest little family! And the dancing with Jane being thrown around. Loretta has become, pretty much, the new Cheryl. She is pretty much now the matriarch of the family.

    Pascalle & Wayne, I know they're not everyone's favourite couple but I like them. They are so cute together and it is possible to fall in love with someone who's older/younger than you. I think that Pascalle actually started liking Wayne in that capacity after Nicky escaped from jail. I think he is the reason she didn't leave.

    Van & Elena, (saw when they met being filmed!! :D) This would have to be the storyline I find the most unbelievable. Van saw her, liked her, followed her. Perved at her, and again, pursued her, won her, married her. It was too fast and it just wasn't realistic. I mean, I'm glad he got the girl but it just seemed weird. Like, how big was the time gap between when he got her to when they got married?

    Grandpa & Ngaire... They're Grandpa and Ngaire. Not much else you can say there, ay?

    Jethro & Bailey. Um, ew. Other than Bailey defending Cheryl and everyone else in the motley crew, she didn't really have anything to do with anything. And as for Jed, the only thing he tried to do, all series, was get rid of Wayne. The only good thing about that is that we finally got to meet Mandy the Mauler. Whoopdy doo.

    And then ofcourse there was Cheryl. She'd been in prison for 6 months and at first it was "Fuck. What're we gonna do without Mum?" but over the course of the series, you see the family managed just as well, if not better without her. I absolutely loved how they played "Be Mine Tonight" at the end. You saw Cheryl observing her family, all the associates and whatnot at their best. Everyone had a partner, everyone except her. It was like the old days, but better. That's why I liked the song (ESPECIALLY how it wasn't "Gutter Black" - too predictable). Because of the trailing on part at the end for a minute or so. You just see Cheryl walking through the lounge then onto the balcony to look at the city. You're never told what she's thinking about. She could be thinking about NUMEROUS things! She could be thinking about Wolf because of the song that's playing... She could be thinking about how her family is doing so well without her, she could be missing Wayne and hating Pascalle. But you're never told. And that. My friends, is the beauty of the last episode.

    Even though there was no real conclusion, it still put your mind at rest, knowing that the West family would continue to be the West family. They would continue to live in the perfect Westie Castle, they would continue with their lives. And even though we no longer see them doing that, we know in our minds that they will. And we will continue living our lives and then something will happen and you will think to yourselves... "I wonder how Cheryl/Loretta/Van/Jed/Pascalle would handle this situation..." and think up little storylines in your head.

    So think about that. Re-watch series', one after the other and enjoy Outrageous Fortune, forever in your hearts. :)
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      CommentAuthorKieranSM
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010 edited
     
    Actually we know where Wolf is, Brisbane or something, landscaping business with his half brother Gary bloody Savage. And wasn't necessarily a conclusion, if the future episode thing remains in the cards.

    And Corny, I just might. My ultimate Outrageous fanvid is officially in production. Someone else started it, I'm gonna finish it. I think they did it on purpose because if I saw that it sucked, I'd step in, push them aside and do it myself. I hate reverse psychology. Anyhow, the vid will now have "themes", not the random scene mess the preview was back then. I'll use several different songs to match each theme. Love/romance - Outrageously Hilarious - Big ass Drama, with some filler music-less scenes in between for a short laugh. It's gonna be a huge thing and will take ages to finish, hopefully I'll have it here by the time 2011 starts......and no I'm not joking. I don't wanna rush it.
    I will take musical suggestions, I'll probably create a thread for that.

    Half of my recent behavioral problems can be attributed to a bad shoulder I've been sporting since Halloween, give me another week or so, I'll be as good as new. I'd like to say that it was my time of the month but sadly I don't have that luxury. My opinion of season 6 still stands though, as is my stance on the way criticism was handled. But having said all that, it's over n done with, and time to indeed move on and celebrate the delicious marvel that kept us going for 6 years.
    • CommentAuthorash99
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    I thought that the last ep was good and Cheryl can start all over again and no men can stop her, Pascalle can start her new life with Judd and the rest of the gang is happy and well!!! :)
    • CommentAuthorsmee2004
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    I must have missed that bit? Who called you a troll? Surely not corny?
    I actually agree with you Kieran, absolutely, completely, 100% you are entitled to your point of view and to be outspoken about it, but what I find a bit bamboozling is that if someone doesn't like what YOU have to say, you get as antsy as you have accused the moderators of.  It goes both ways, you know?
    • CommentAuthortamar
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    ooh touche smee.
    • CommentAuthorlouise86
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    Kieran, is that still you? Someone must of taken over your body. Keep this persona lol. Not long to go until 2011, I look forward to seeing your fan vid, along with some others.
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      CommentAuthorDrew_1981
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    Yeah stop being such a grouchy bi-polar bear!

    My fan vid I've been working on is nearly done, mines a bit more randomness and now I know yours wont be out till early 2011 I can post mine and have a month or so in between vids, woo! didnt want them up at he same time.Laughing
    • CommentAuthorCornelius
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    I agree with everything macka3000 said!
    • CommentAuthoralee_rome
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    I also agree with what macka3000 said also :)
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      CommentAuthorKieranSM
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    @Macka2000: You saw when they met being filmed? You mean you were posing nude as well? Double, or something?

    @Smeee: Oz is a troll, I rest my case. You didn't miss a thing. And it's not my opinion being ignored that got my goat, it wasn't ignored at all, got you lot going lol. I'm talking about other people's opinion.........again for instance, the person that started this thread. God how many times do I have to repeat that? Anyway like I said it's done, the mods scared that person away, doubt he/she will post ever again.

    @Corny: Afraid to get yourself choppered are ya?

    @Drew I'm not faaat!!! But the bipolar thing, you might be onto something. And for best results, use Corel VideoStudio X3 with the free addons. Cool title text effects and excellent quality output, as long as you use the 3ivx codec for avi, and EasyX264 (free product) for mp4 encoding (youtube-ready).
    It's funny how we have to work around each other to avoid stealing one another's thunder. You go first, save the best for last.

    @Lulu: Told you, it was my time of the month, my shoulder, my raging hayfever that goes into overdrive this time of the year and doesn't allow me much sleep (pills don't do shit for me), and my constant pc troubles. Had to reformat it twice in 2 weeks and the pain is reinstalling the whole bunch of software I got, can take hours.
    Not to mention the 2 different antivirus ones that kept stuffing up my connection, first one forced me to once again reformat the damn pc because even after I uninstalled it, my connection was permanently disfigured. Anyhow after about 30 minutes of cursing, it works fine again. No substitute for experience.
    • CommentAuthorlouise86
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    I'll say it, you're a smart cookie when it comes to computers Kieran. But what u just told us is not what you told me. But I'll keep that between us. I swear the bi-polar thing is dead on lol. Where has this Kieran been?
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      CommentAuthorKieranSM
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    Plus I think I've lost weight because my lovesock keeps sliding off..........wait wha? Oh yes yes, I'm not working on the video RIGHT NOW, I'm just putting ideas together for the music n stuff. I don't need to sit on the pc for that. Like I said, give it a week or so, I'll be as good as new. If you're talking about the change of heart, well there's been improvement in certain areas, that's why I'm not so focused on biting heads off. Feeling very inspired indeed, draw your own conclusions.
    • CommentAuthorlouise86
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    Did we meet a nice nurse?
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      CommentAuthorKieranSM
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    Considering it was an old guy with a potbelly......NO. As for the OTHER thing you meant, well I've already addressed that above, we all are what we are, can't help or change that. No point keeping it against each other.
    • CommentAuthorlouise86
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010
     
    lmao! what more is there to say?
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      CommentAuthorKieranSM
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2010
     
    Only one thing comes to mind: shut the fuck up and move on :)
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    I just watched all of season 6 for the first time on DVD.. and i too was abit dissapointed.. i actually thought there was more ep's to go.. til i went to the main menu and realised ........... that was it! :(

    I was sooooo expecting WOLF to come back !!!! omg!!! heartbroken!!!

    * shattered thats it !!!!!

    Why arent' they making any more seasons???
    Cry
    Rach
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      CommentAuthorDrew_1981
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2010
     
    Remember when I said I didn't think Cheryl was really Cheryl in the final ep? Even Robyn agrees with me! listen to the commentary for this ep! lol
    • CommentAuthorkakapo
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2010
     
    what does she say Drew? sorry but don't have the bonus disc (yet)
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      CommentAuthorDrew_1981
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2010
     
    The scene when she comes in to talk to Van in his house when he's packing for Russia, Robyn says the dynamics had changed so much between those 2 I didn't know how to play Cheryl.

    It's Commentaries Kak, on the normal S6 DVDs i assume?

    I also loved the Nicole & Roz and Siobhan and Wesley commentaries too.
    • CommentAuthorkakapo
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2010
     
    Thanks for that. I didn't realise there were commentaries on the normal S6 DVD as well. 
    I like it when Cheryl pleads with Van..."Come on, I just got home..."
    So those other commentaries are on the normal DVD?
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      CommentAuthorDrew_1981
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2010
     
    I assume? I only got the box set and they were on those discs, the bonus disc didnt work in my player I might add but it doesn't matter cause it wasn't really worth it lol
    • CommentAuthorlouise86
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2010
     
    Kaks, normal s6 DVD has the commentaries. Box set is worth it if you want the bonus disk. Even then it's a bit meh. Actually, worth it for interviews.

    Keep your eye out for Siobhan as a Vampire. That's all that I got out of that commentary lol.
    • CommentAuthorspderman
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2010
     
    Siobhan as a Vampire?
    C'mon Louise tell us, what show is it?
    True Blood? Following Grant's footsteps
    Vampire Diaries? God I hope not, that show sucks.
    Please clue us in so we can look for Siobhan.
    Pretty please with sugar on top.
    • CommentAuthorlouise86
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2010
     
    Sorry spderman, she hasn't been cast in anything (that I know of). She was having a laugh in the episode 12 commentaries.
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      CommentAuthorDrew_1981
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2010
     
    going off topic a bit, has anyone watched that new show The Walking Dead? Omg its awesome!! If one of the OF cast can get in on that for S2 they will be set! lol
    • CommentAuthorlouise86
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2010
     
    No, not going off topic at all.
    • CommentAuthorspderman
    • CommentTimeDec 6th 2010
     
    WD is a great show. I normally don't get into "Zombies", but this show rocks.
    It's based on a popular American indy comic-book.
    Grant Bowler would make a great survivor.
    • CommentAuthorlizzygirl
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2010
     
    Watched the last episode of Season 6 last night....very disappointing with it all.
    It seemed like the writers were doing a rush job on it...just to please the fans I think.
    Cheryl deserved to get out of jail and live a happy life with Judd but it just all turned to shit once the writers decided that Judd & Pascalle should have a relationship and then go away together.
    Maybe the writers should put it out there to the fans to give them ideas for storylines for Season 7.....if they ever decide to do one.
    Season 6 was pathetic!!!
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    Season 6 had its flaws but what season didn't. The Commentary on the last episode by Robyn, Antonia and Rachel was great and Robyn summed up a great series by saying that although she is alone she carries on and so does the family. And that the West family lives on and will have all the dramas and laughs that we have loved through six years of great New Zealand television.

    For all of you asking why Wolf didn't come back it was because he had no real reason to. He was doing fine for himself in Perth and I'm sure he'd stay where he was even if he did know about Pascalle and Judd. And I think the ending was similar to The Sopranos ending for those of you who have seen it, there was nothing more to be said or done, All her kids were happy and her rules were broken at points but in the end everyone was above the law and just the way Cheryl wanted.
    • CommentAuthorBel V
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2011
     
    Yeah i wasn't too happy with the ending only because i didnt really understand the whole standing on the porch while the party was still going. but i think it might just be my favourite series despite the whole "rooting your step-dad" thing Fav bit has to be where Ted and Nai Nai do the lines of coke, their facial expressions are priceless =)
    • CommentAuthorWest_T
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2011
     
    Hmm season 6 well what to say.
    Not my favourite season but I didn't hate it. I actually kinda liked having Cheryl in prison, and only the occasional ep with her because it gave the chance to focus on the West kids and what they were up to. Though I rather enjoyed the Draska Cheryl eps in prison :)

    The problem was that the story line was weak - there was no huge events that drew the audience in and that the season could be based around. Okay the first ep with Cheryl going to prison I really liked, but after that not much happened until 2nd to last ep when she got out - which was ridiculously easy for her to get out - why didn't Bailey just do that originally and it all would have been fine. I think they needed to do something a bit more with getting her out.

    Didn't really like Bailey overall - could not watch the threesome scene it so grossed me out lol

    Jethro got on my nerves. Usually I like him whether he's been evil or a bastard but him trying to be 'dad' annoyed me. I mean I can kinda understand it but he was just a prick. I may be forgetting something but when Grandpa got his 'crew' together and then him and Ngaire did that job and Jethro told him not to because he needed him not in jail cos he had something planned - well what was he referring to because I don't remember Jethro actually doing anything.

    Van. So cute and got his happy ending which I was stoked about but it was so badly done. I mean he falls in love with this Russian chick he barely knows and can barely speak to, she's already engaged but then she marries Van. Just not believable enough.

    Pascalle and Judd. Well you could actually see that this would kinda happen since the start of the season. However, in ep 9 Nicky flees and Pascalle is heart broken. She gets over it by the next ep pretty much then sleeps with Judd by ep 12. This just didn't fly with me - but Mandy the Mauler was awesome lol Ha reflecting on OF is it just me our is there heaps of exchanging of partners between family members:
    Hayden was with Pascalle then Loretta
    Nicky was with Loretta then Pascalle
    Sheree was with Wolf then Jethro then Van
    Judd was with Cheryl then Pascalle
    And I suppose Wolf was with Cheryl then Sheree

    The finale was actually one of my fav eps from the season and I think they ended it well. I mean as much as I disliked the Judd/Pascalle thing and Van/Elena (though they were cute) it was enjoyable to watch. Loretta becoming the new matriach, taking Cheryl's role, was the best bit I think. She really evolved over the season and became the most sensible one, and actually a good mother and wife, which you would not have thought after watching her abandon her child. And Jane was just perfect. Like always. The best actor on the show I think. So cute when Loretta, Hayden and Jane were dancing together at the end - made my day.

    Loretta's dress... Usually I love her clothes, especially her own wedding dress - so suits her. But her browny red thing at Van's wedding... could have been better but I must admit it grew on me. And Elena was gorgeous.

    I enjoyed the commentary for the finale with Rachel, Antonia and Robyn. Especially when Antonia could so see Cheryl's manipulation of Pascalle, trying to force her to work at Hoochie, and Robyn was totally on the other side saying she was being a good mother lol

    And the last (or nearly last I can't remember) words of the show:
    "But it was good. And you made it happen. It was all you."
    I think that this summed it up quite nicely and the walking out onto the porch having a ciggie - a recurring moment that tied the season up and kinda showed how life still does go on - that all this shit has happened in their life but it really wasn't so bad and turned out okay...
    Quite poignant I thought.

    Anyway, not the best season, a bit disappointing but not total crap. My fav season is still number 5!!!
    • CommentAuthorkakapo
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2011 edited
     
    Thanks West_T. Very interesting analysis. It's nice to have some new people joining in the discussion. The forum could do with an energy boost!
    • CommentAuthorlouise86
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2011
     
    The problem was that the story line was weak - there was no huge events that drew the audience in and that the season could be based around. Okay the first ep with Cheryl going to prison I really liked, but after that not much happened until 2nd to last ep when she got out - which was ridiculously easy for her to get out - why didn't Bailey just do that originally and it all would have been fine. I think they needed to do something a bit more with getting her out.

    The regulars may have picked up on this. What you said above is 100% what I thought about the season myself. Even down to your thoughts on Bailey getting Cheryl out of prison. Spooky. JG might remember my comments too lol.

    Yes, all of the Wests have swapped partners. In the early stages of season 6 I was thinking that Judd was the only character not to be swapped. I now regret thinking that.

    I think Jethro wanted Ted to stay out of prison so that he could steal those artifacts for him - the jade horse is the only one that springs to mind.
    • CommentAuthorWest_T
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2011
     
    Oh the jade horse now I remember - thanks. That was the Tony Wu thing right?
    • CommentAuthorlouise86
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2011
     
    Yes it was. I don't understand the relevance either. But that's how s6 ran.
    • CommentAuthorWest_T
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2011
     
    Yeah and wouldn't Ted be the worst person to ask to steal something for Tony Wu because of the whole poker game thing.... Mmm doesn't make sense to me, though I have forgotten much of Season 6
    • CommentAuthorlouise86
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2011
     
    lol he didn't know it was for Tony Wu at the time. That's why he spat the dummy when he found out.
    • CommentAuthorWest_T
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2011
     
    Ah yes of course. I guess I'd better watch that season again lol
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      CommentAuthorarisa1536
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2012
     
    To the person who said This is not my life was better than OF and deserved to win best show
    Why did get in canned after one pathetic season??? sorry but its was utter garbage with an unrealistic storyline and over acted tired looking actors IMO.

    Season six was not as good but we always have seasons 1-4 :D to rewatch before the pascalle and wayne fiasco
  3.  
    i gotta say i was really thinking that wolf was gonna pull up in the drive way as the song "be mine tonight" faded out and got outa the car and said "G'day love" that would of just topped it off i think
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